Thursday, December 18, 2008

AETNA SUCKS

Okay, so I've had experience dealing with insurance companies before.  But never, ever have I had to deal with a company that is as conniving, lying, and scandalous as Aetna.

I am on the phone with them a couple of times a month to question a claim decision or to follow up on something I've appealed before.  I don't think I submit a large amount of claims, but it seems that every single thing I submit is denied or short paid for one reason or another.  Usually it takes awhile to get it figured out but eventually it does...it's just super annoying and a HUGE waste of my time.

An example.

Last year I saw Dr X.  His office submited the charges.  Aetna refused to pay because they said that Dr. X was not covered under their plan and that if I would just look under the docFind link on their website I could find a huge list of everyone who is covered.  I told them I had looked there.  The woman told me to look again.  

I hung up and looked again.  

There he was.  

Listed as covered.  

So I called back and talked to some man who told me to look under the docFind link.  I told him I did.  I even walked him through the steps I took to find Dr. X.  He put me on hold forever and came back and said he would resubmit it because it did indeed look like Dr. X was covered.  A couple of weeks later I got a letter from Aetna saying the claim had been reviewed again and was denied.  

Again.  

So I called.  

Again.  

The woman told me to use docFind because Dr. X wasn't covered.  I asked to talk to a manager who told me Dr. X wasn't covered.  I walked the manager through the steps and he said it was a mistake.  I told him that his company's mistake shouldn't cost me.  He told me to appeal the decision but that there was nothing else he could do.  

So I appealed.  

Aetna denied the claim.  

Again.  

So I went online to the docFind and printed off the pages showing Dr. X's name.  That's right.  Dr. X was still listed as in-network even though supposedly his contract with them had expired well over a year prior and I had been talking to them about this claim for over 6 months (which one would think would be plenty of time for them to update/correct their website - in fact, just for fun I went in tonight to look one more time.  Sure enough 15 months after this all started Dr. X is STILL listed as in-network).  

Then I appealed.  

Again.  

I sent in 20 pages of documentation.  This time the appeal went to my employer.  A few weeks later I received a letter from my employer saying that my appeal was approved and Aetna was responsible to pay.  They paid 10 months after the charges were incurred.  It had taken me hours of time spent listening to hold music and hours of time gathing information, but I swear when that letter arrived I thought I was going to run through the snow naked I was so happy.

So several weeks ago I started going to a new chiropractor (Dr. Y).  He was recommended by someone I know, and before I made my first appointment I went to docFind to make sure he was covered.  Sure enough, there he was.  

So I went to my first appointment and second and third.  Each time I happily paid the copay.  And today I received the first notice of the claim.  They told me I would need to pay 30% of the total bill - not just the copay.  WTF?  So I emailed Aetna and asked for clarification of why I had to pay 30%.  Their email back to me:  

Dear Ms. Cmuser:

Thank you for using the Aetna Navigator website to contact Aetna Member Services.

This is in response to your claim question on yourself for 12/03/08 from Dr. Y for $XXX.

We have processed this claim according to your
non-preferred level of benefits because this provider does not have a contract with Aetna.

Search for Aetna providers by logging in to Aetna Navigator and selecting Find Health Care in DocFind.
Blah, blah, blah.  
You have got to be kidding me.  This cannot seriously be happening to me again.  But it is.  I went online tonight and there is Dr. Y listed as in-network.  
This isn't the only type of problem I've had with Aetna.  Everything from them saying I couldn't have two physicals in one year (I only had one - they paid for it after I faxed them proof) to them saying blood tests couldn't be covered because they weren't medically necessary (they were ordered by their in-network PCP, but I guess that doesn't qualify - or at least it didn't right away.  They paid for them after I sent them paperwork and a letter from my doctor).  
So, tomorrow I will call Aetna.  I will start all over again.  Then I will report them for being the lying scoundrals they are.  What's the point of having insurance if you have to fight them all the time?

7 comments:

Schmiddy said...

That is horrific. Why would any company choose Aetna...cheap bastards!

justmecassi said...

I went through this same exact thing (I have Altius)! They said it was the doctor's fault for not manually removing her name from the insurance's web site, not theirs. I appealed and won, and after all of that, her name was STILL on their web site! They wouldn't remove it even though they knew she wasn't covered! Ridiculous.

Jamie Thingelstad said...

Completely agree. We've dumped Aetna now and are happily over on Blue Cross of MN now. Way better coverage.

scrubgrub said...

I hate them as well. I've had a fetal demise and the keep directing me to Doc Find to find a doctor to do the procedure...which of course it tells me absolutely nothing....now I've been told that they've approved a non-in network provider, at the "preferred level" but won't tell me how much that covers... everything takes several days just to solve. Seriously, fetal demise you think would get you somewhere with these people.

Anonymous said...

My discontent with Aetna is not as serious as yours, so I'm sorry my issue sounds trite. However, please know that I'm sincerely sorry for you, your family and your issue as an average hard-working American.

And I share your issue with the carrier and the health insurance industry in America in general. It is completely out of control without any governance and is running the average American into the ground and killing this country.

I recently had a dental issue - a crown cracked. I called my dentist and he fixed the crown within a week. Only after the crown was fixed did I learn that Aetna Dental wouldn't pay for it. Apparently, that crown (tooth number 13 ???) was put on 5 1/2 month ago and my policy only covered crowns applied <=6 months.

After my dental office learned that Aetna wasn't covering the crown, they appealled.
I learned of the appeal only after I received a letter from Aetna that they weren't covering the claim. I called and discussed the issue with someone who answered the phone. When reviewing the decision the drone mentioned the term. Noone on Aetna's side ever questioned why the dentist office didn't call them before the procedure or discussed what a temporary solution would be for 6 months until coverage would be acceptable. The easier way out was to victimize the victum - the average American.

I tried discussing the issue with my company's HR department. They all but laughed at me and literaly stated that the insurance carriers are "a million miles away and do not care for anything but the dollar." They then went on to call me a naive kid and for me to simply pay the dentist the $600.

Bottom line the insurance companies, medical professionals and corporations do not really "care" for the American.

Aetna truely does suck.

mfullert said...

Just to clue you in on how they behave from the other side. A relative of mine is an in-network provider, contracted through Aetna. She is about to go ahead and get out of their network because they pay a seriously low amount. She gets the co-pay plus what Aetna pays, which totals to literally below half of her normal charge. So, I don't know if they are that way with all of the fields they cover, but that basically *could* mean that a large majority of people in the "in network" list either won't be there too long or are not good and despirate for clients.

Brent Fidler said...

This is a case of "you get what you pay for" I chose Aetna for my business because they offered by far the lowest cost and what seemed to be a descent network. As an employer with older employees (some with health issues) other insurance was unaffordable for my business and my employees.

All was fine for a while but now the network has gotten progressively worse. I am fully aware the the medical providers are dropping their contracts with Aetna because of reimbursement rates. I can't blame them for wanting to get paid a fair amount for their services. But I couldn't afford insurance otherwise. So we are stuck with Aetna and a worsening network.